These are some points to be noted for all those aspiring to take dnb in surgery.
Dr. Dhruvv D. S.:
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Don’t choose corporate hospitals like Fortis, Apollo, Max, care anywhere in the country.
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Govt hospitals and railways don’t provide any hostel or accommodation facilities even after payment of your accommodation fees.
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Hands on is excellent only in the 5 govt hospitals running in Delhi and the 2 trust hospitals in andhra Pradesh
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Most of the trust hospitals have only 1 OT day per Pg student. So you hardly get surgical hands on.
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Opd census of almost all the small hospital with 200 to 450 beds have low count(only 30 patients in a day) , no trauma or emergency cases.
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Don’t opt for any district hospital since they don’t handle the high risk cases and they refer it to corporates or govt medical colleges. And plus there is 3 years service bond after dnb in district hospitals.
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Hospitals in Maharashtra generally don’t have good academics, you’ll have to self study and rely on hear and say.
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Nobody from the faculty is going to guide you in thesis presentation.
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Only 5 to 10 hospitals conduct regular assessments of the pg students.
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Many students have also told they scrub in every OT but they work as helper and camera man for lap surgeries.
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Academics is near to zero.
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Even if you have a good hands-on, you’ll suffer a lot in your exams because you wont get time to study, or attend any conferences.
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There is no regulatory authority in the hospital which keeps you informed about the thesis, exam dates and deadlines.
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Many rules have been violated by the hospitals, including stipend being paid 10000 rupees lesser than what needs to be paid.
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Some dnb hospitals have been shut down due to lack of teaching consultants, you can read the recent news online.
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Some hospitals even threatened the dnb students against filing complaints with the nbe.
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Many students dropped out of surgery dnb every year (almost 127 to 140 vacant seats) are carried forward to the next session. The reason being they didn’t get good hands-on. And were only made to run here and there for pre-op assessments and clerical duties.
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You’ll always be at the mercy of your consultants, if they’re good then you may have a slight chance of learning things, or else you’ll be regretting your choice of hospital for the next three years.
Source group name. : dnb surgery discussions
I agree with all these points but my doubt is even in a Pvt med clg of AP also same scenario exists for dnb surgery . Here atleast pg is getting one surgery per day many Pvt clgs in AP don’t even give that much cutting chances also
… It’s a weekly twice cutting chance of one or two pts. Majority will be hernias that too in first year u will be observant ,u will be allowed to do only minor ops like sebaceous cyst,lipoma and such. From second year u can assist in major surgeries but u can properly cut only in third year. Atleast for AP students think twice before u join MS GS in a Pvt med clg
What’s the issue with DNB in corporate hospitals like Apollo,Fortis etc??..
Not only in A. P, it is same scenario in all pvt medical colleges throughout the country
I am not sure but I think it will answer the question for Apollo.
I went for my relative to drain abscess and the charge was 50000. 35K for surgeon and 5K for Anaesthesia and rest for hospital.
Do you think after paying such a big amount for 10min procedure that patient will allow a trainee to do I and D even though it’s a simple procedure.
I think this might be the possible reason.
Hmm…most probably
Btw off topic Surgeon gets 35k out of 50k??..I remember a news about Bangalore hospitals forcing surgeons to do more surgeries in which they specifically mentioned surgeons getting only 6k out of a 40k I n D procedure…35k out of 50k sounds too good to be true despite experience
I think many private hospital will charge mostly for bed stay fee, care and investigations bro. In my city there is mostly corporate hospital only. If any body have fever the near by hospital in my area is Apollo.